Not Trade War but Real War between US and China


Rex Tillerson, former chairman and chief executive officer of Exxon Mobil, is seated prior to testifying before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee confirmation hearing on his nomination to be U.S. secretary of state, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S. January 11, 2017. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

Rex Tillerson, former chairman and chief executive officer of Exxon Mobil, is seated prior to testifying before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee confirmation hearing on his nomination to be U.S. secretary of state, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S. January 11, 2017. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

When the US wanted China to respect Hague arbitration ruling to give up China’s rights and interests in the South China Sea, Chinese troops conducted its largest drill there and Chinese navy chief pointed his finger at his US counterpart in his talks with him. Soon afterwards Chinese air force began to conduct combat patrol in the South China Sea especially on the disputed Scarborough Shale.

Now, Reuters says in its report “Trump nominee says China should be denied access to South China sea islands”, “U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of state set a course for a potentially serious confrontation with Beijing on Wednesday, saying China should be denied access to islands it has built in the contested South China Sea.”

What does that mean?

It means the nominee Rex Tillerson wants a real war instead of trade war with China.

The US is preparing for that as it has been sending a squadron of F-35, its most advanced fighter jets, to Japan for the war.

China is not less prepared as it has been stepping up the development, production and deployment its most advanced fighter jet J-20s so that if the US hurts China’s core interests of its rights and interests in the South China Sea, China has to fight. The Chinese ruling party the CCP will become extremely unpopular if it is afraid to fight.

We hope it will be a limited war between the two powers as the US cannot send its army to invade China given China’s huge modern army and US experience of defeat in Korean War. China, on the other hand, is utterly unable to send its army to the US.

China is now able to win the naval war as China’s J-20 is superior to F-35 in a war of defense and China can sink US aircraft carriers with saturate attack of its large number of anti-ship ballistic and cruise missiles.

What will follow then? Attack China with nuclear weapons in retaliation? That will be the end of human race.

Do Trump and his nominee Rex Tillerson want that?

Let’s hope that Rex Tillerson’s hardline statement is but rhetoric.

Comment by Chan Kai Yee on Reuters’ report, full text of which is reblogged below:

Trump nominee says China should be denied access to South China sea islands

By David Brunnstrom and Matt Spetalnick | WASHINGTON January 11, 2017

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of state set a course for a potentially serious confrontation with Beijing on Wednesday, saying China should be denied access to islands it has built in the contested South China Sea.

In comments expected to enrage Beijing, Rex Tillerson told his confirmation hearing before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee that China’s building of islands and putting military assets on those islands was “akin to Russia’s taking Crimea” from Ukraine.

Asked whether he supported a more aggressive posture toward China, he said: “We’re going to have to send China a clear signal that, first, the island-building stops and, second, your access to those islands also is not going to be allowed.”

The former Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) chairman and chief executive did not elaborate on what might be done to deny China access to the islands it has built up from South China Sea reefs, equipped with military-length airstrips and fortified with weapons.

Tillerson also said Washington needed to reaffirm its commitment to Taiwan, which Beijing regards as a renegade province, but stopped short of Trump’s questioning of Washington’s long-standing policy on the issue.

“I don’t know of any plans to alter the ‘one China’ position,” he said.

Tillerson said he considered China’s South China Sea activity “extremely worrisome” and that it would be a threat to the “entire global economy” if Beijing were able to dictate access to the waterway, which is of strategic military importance and a major trade route.

He blamed the current situation on what he termed an inadequate U.S. response. “The failure of a response has allowed them just to keep pushing the envelop on this,” Tillerson said.

“The way we’ve got to deal with this is we’ve got to show back up in the region with our traditional allies in Southeast Asia,” he said.

Democratic President Barack Obama’s administration conducted periodic air and naval patrols to assert the right of free navigation in the South China Sea. These have angered Beijing, but seeking to blockade China’s man-made islands would be a major step further and a step that Washington has never raised as an option.

Tillerson’s words also went beyond Trump’s own tough rhetoric on China.

Obama has sought to forge a united front in Southeast Asia against China’s pursuit of its territorial claims, but some allies and partners who are rival claimants have been reluctant to challenge Beijing.

Tillerson called China’s South China Sea island-building and declaration of an air defense zone in waters of the East China Sea it contests with Japan “illegal actions.”

“They’re taking territory or control, or declaring control of territories that are not rightfully China’s,” he said.

Tillerson also said the United States could not continue to accept “empty promises” China had made about putting pressure on North Korea over that country’s nuclear and missile programs.

He said his approach to dealing with North Korea – which recently declared it is close to carrying out its first test of an intercontinental ballistic missile – would be “a long-term plan” based on sanctions and their proper implementation.

Asked if Washington should consider imposing “secondary sanctions” on Chinese entities found to be violating existing sanctions on North Korea, Tillerson said: “If China is not going to comply with those U.N. sanctions, then it’s appropriate … for the United States to consider actions to compel them to comply.”

He accused China of failing to live up to global agreements on trade and intellectual property, echoing past remarks by Trump, who has threatened to impose high, retaliatory tariffs on China. But Tillerson also stressed the “deeply intertwined” nature of the world’s two biggest economies.

“We should not let disagreements over other issues exclude areas for productive partnership,” he said.

(Reporting by David Brunnstrom and Matt Spetalnick; Editing by Jonathan Oatis)

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15 Comments on “Not Trade War but Real War between US and China”

  1. mampa says:

    The racial thing has continued from the days of Chinese Exclusion Act in the United States, the Chinese Civil War, the Liberation of China in 1949, the so-called ‘Korean War’ to actually destabilise New China 8 months after October 1st 1949, the encirclement of New China ever since and the incessant demonisation and bashing of New China and the Chinese people ….from basically the same 8 (minus Russia now) foreign powers that invaded and plundered Peking and who are presently shocked that the ‘despicable and once trampled Chinese race’ has the temerity to rise and try to surpass them. This is unacceptable to the United States, Japan and the ‘White’ countries …..

    I have written innumerable times that the US agenda against New China and the Chinese people will never change whoever sits at the White House. Beijing must not live in self deception as to the motives of those countries. Self reliance in military defence and economic developments will help China to overcome foreign interferences …..There must never be a repeat of the Hundred Years of Humiliations for China and the Chinese people ever again in this nuclear age ……

    The Chinese people must continue to uphold and ensure the “the Chinese People Have Stood Up’ as proclaimed on October 1st 1949.

    The racial thing against China and the Chinese people will continue for the next few generations – that Beijing must realise despite whatever disinformations coming from outside …..

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  2. Mad Max says:

    Feels like Tillerson and Mathis being forced to make hawkish anti China remarks in order to be confirmed in their positions as Secretar of State and Defence Secretary respectively. Blackmail, that’s what it is, pure blackmail to make Trump isolated. Looking from the East, perhaps its ok seeing the Americans divided like this. Hope they are kept busy infighting and unable to focus on foreign and military affairs.

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  3. Allen Lau says:

    Headline, headline, read all about it….Freedom of Navigation in SCS for the US of A only. If it weren’t so serious, it’ll be laughable.

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  4. Fre Okin says:

    Silly newbie Tillerson who think negotiation in public serve US purpose. In fact his posturing will accelerate China’s deployment to the artificial islands. Now what? Start a fight? If Trump dare to take up his advice, it will be a golden opportunity for anti Trump forces to get him impeached. Trump administration will be over the moment war erupt between US and China.

    Mr Tillerson will find his tough talk have no bite and will resign due to disagreement with his boss.

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    • Joh says:

      Does China think a few underpowered J-20s and their two smallish carriers will l deter the American military? The Americans are telling China to BRING IT!

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      • Fre Okin says:

        Actually if you understand American politics, Tillerson tough talk is just to help him win Senate confirmation. His audience are the Senators who will decide his fate. He just put on a show of toughness to appease US conservatives.

        NO, Tillerson KNOW US aircraft carriers dare not sail Anywhere near Chinese islands. The ships are too deep and will run aground. This is why US aircraft carriers stay far away from Chinese artificial islands. They can sail in the middle of the SCS, Nobody Cares. Chinese ‘Little Blue Men’ will be giving them full escort service. Bring it on!

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  5. Tyler reber says:

    I doubt a war will happen, the build up of tensions would probably cause enough market catastrophies that the American public just won’t know how to cope with. Debt slaves are likely not to show their patriotism for a water on the other side of the planet.

    After all, the 2 party system now only represents a third of the population. Tillerson probably doesn’t do any better.

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  6. Simon says:

    Tillerson will say anything to help divert media attention away from Trump’s embarrasing sex tape scandal.

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    • Steve says:

      So, is it true .?

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      • Simon says:

        GoldenShowerGate

        A preview of a tape amongst several was shown to Obama, Trump and members of the intelligent services. Some want to put a lid on it while others oppose to Trump want it release.
        There is potential Trump will be impeach if he allowed himself to be blackmailed by arch enemy Russia.

        Putin has Trump in his pocket…..

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        • Steve says:

          If the tape is genuine, Trump Dumb will be Dumped. Apparently, Tillerson’s SOT is still not guaranteed, can still be opposed before 20th January. If the tape is to be released, Trump will resign, step down before inauguration. No point being impeached. If Trump falls from grace, American democracy is stuffed. Either new elections or Hillary will be President. The tape if genuine will be demanded by Hillary for release,

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          • Simon says:

            If Trump is impeached VP Mike Pence will be President.

            I cant imagine any American soldiers will risk their own lives fighting a war for Trump.
            They rather piss on him, pun intended.

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        • alking1957 says:

          Dint be silly, if there is such a tape that is genuine it would have been shown by all the anti trump msm and he would be barred from office already

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  7. EASTERN LOOKING GLASS says:

    THE CALCULUS OF WAR : WHO WILL BLINK FIRST?

    So war it is. The Empire intends to strike back and claim the blue planet for its own even if it means nuclear genocide; Starting in the South China Sea.

    Amerika does not intend to go to war alone. It intends to drag its expendable East Asian allies along. So Japanese and Koreans and Taiwanese have some serious thinking to do : Brinksmanship and bluff is fine but a real war …. ? Better think carefully. The next war is not a conventional war but likely to be a nuclear war.

    Looks like what the world is going to witness is another American – read Washington – engineered World War 3, much like the their engineered World War 2 – Cut off Chinese trade routes and raw materials, like how it was done to the Japanese and Tokyo drew first blood in the form of Pearl Harbor. No need any false flag for Amerika the “brave” to look good and “virtuous”.

    Beijing may have to seriously consider premptive strikes on Amerika, Japan, Korea and Taiwan. Just as the Trump Administration may consider a preemptive strikes on Chinese islands, in the air, under the sea, and on the mainland.

    The Amerikan cowboy thus rides once more on Amerika’s planetary “Wild West” and no “Injun” can claim the right to any territory long considered theirs. The Amerkan “calvary” will see to it by decimating them all “injun” tribes. No need for a warmongering Hillary/Obama duet to ignite World War 3. The Trump/Tillerson is equal to the task. Ordinary American blokes have no say in this. Thiers is not to question why but do and die.

    Where does Korea and Japan stands? WIlll they capitulate to Washington or to Beijing? Or will Beijing capitulate or make appeasement to the “great white father in Washington”? Truly, doubts about the wisdom of a Trump presidency is now being erased. And it is not even the first day of his presidency yet.

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  8. Steve says:

    His words I believe are collective impositions from the US military hawks. Tillerson’s suggestion is to impose a US A2/AD within China’s A2/AD by denying China’s military access to China’s own engineered islands. His words are not his own. How can a former chairman/executive of an oil company ‘jump the gun’ and start a real war.

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