With Drones Tracking Submarines South China Sea Is Indeed China’s Lake


China’s testing of underwater gliding drones in the South China Sea with real time data transmission technology could help pinpoint the location of foreign submarines. Photo: Handout

In its report “Why Beijing is speeding up underwater drone tests in the South China Sea” today, SCMP says, “China is testing large-scale deployment of underwater drones in the South China Sea with real-time data transmission technology, a breakthrough that could help reveal and track the location of foreign submarines.”

As sound much slower than radio wave is used in underwater communication, according to experts real-time underwater communication is very difficult if not impossible.

The US has also used group of gliding drones for submarine tracking but the drones have to come up to the surface to send the information it collects so that there is a time lag and discontinuity in the data collected from the drones.

Now, China is able to collect information from its group of drones real time, it is certainly a breakthrough in technology ahead of the US. US submarines will have nowhere to hide in the South China Sea, which will thus indeed become China’s lake.

Comment by Chan Kai Yee on SCMP’s report, full text of which can be found at http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2103941/why-beijing-speeding-underwater-drone-tests-south-china?utm_source=edm&utm_medium=edm&utm_content=20170726&utm_campaign=scmp_china&utm_source=SupChina&utm_campaign=772eae8a1b-20170726-342OrganTransplants&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_caef3ab334-772eae8a1b-164862477.

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14 Comments on “With Drones Tracking Submarines South China Sea Is Indeed China’s Lake”

  1. Allen Lau says:

    It is all part of China’s asymmetric strategy against high tech and high priced foreign threats. In a war of dollar and cents, China is developing low cost unmanned underwater drones to detect and track multi-billion dollar nuclear submarines.

    By increasing the frequency of patrol, US is providing China with plenty of training opportunity to fine tune and hone its tracking and targeting ability. Eventually, US submarines (like the carriers) will not be able to operate safely anywhere near China.

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  2. […] “With Drones Tracking Submarines South China Sea Is Indeed China’s Lake” […]

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  3. Fre Okin says:

    Just a game of psychology, China should prioritize her wolf pack of UUV’s in the SCS at the southern end near Sabah, Sarawak and Sulu Sea, even the Celebes sea as the furthest end US subs could hide based on the Tomahawk range to hit Hainan.

    Also put a lot near Cam Ranh Bay to track Vietnamese subs. US subs will most likely not dare to go into the inner part of SCS as it is Perceived as filled with Chinese sonar sensors and UUV’s, so put limited resources in the most likely place where they can hide, including the entrance into Bashi Channel between Taiwan and Northern Philippines.

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  4. Luma says:

    Foreign submarines can deploy drones too. In the case of the drones they can act as decoys, flooding the South China sea with thousands of false targets that will drive the PLAN crazy trying to determine what is real and what is false.

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    • Joseph says:

      Considering they have the money, they can develop drones too. But with even NASA going bankrupt, researching is not cheap. Underwater drones would have distinct signals. Otherwise they are not drones, but just ocean junks.

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    • KwaaiLan Chin says:

      It depends on the method(s) used to identify an enemy submarine. As an example, drones are very small compared to a submarine and will have a very different magnetic anomaly.

      China has very advanced supercomputers (world’s fastest three years in a row and improving in leaps and bounds) and doing a discriminant analysis (pattern recognition) in real time to differentiate between false targets and a real one is a breeze.

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      • Fre Okin says:

        Good one! I really appreciate intelligent discussions. Not only UUV’s, China should also have lots of midget subs, especially to target Cam Ranh Bay to lock up Vietnamese Kilo subs there and in Haiphong I believe as well. These midget subs will go solo, like tip of spear, close up, harder to detect to unload their torpedoes close up on enemy subs.

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        • Joseph says:

          Rather than useless midget subs, it is better to develop exploration subs. The area belongs to China, China should not skulking like a thief or American, but explore it openly. If china can solve water pressure problem, personal exploration subs are good for studying the ocean, tourism and possible future underwater colonization. The SCS is not deep. It will be good for scientifically researching underwater colonization. Who cares about foreigners making scenes.

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          • Steve says:

            Nice commentary, but the SCS is deep, deeper than the ECS. This is one main reason for China’s engineered islands to install detection devices to detect and hunt US nuclear subs. The ECS is not deep enough to hide large nuclear subs, but the SCS very much deeper for hide and seek. Without those engineered islands, China will be at the mercy of US nuclear subs from the depths of SCS.

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            • Chin Kwaai Lan says:

              Certain parts of SCS are deeper than ECS but not deep enough. There are reports that China is dredging some areas of SCS for more depths to effectively hide the submarines.

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          • Fre Okin says:

            Don’t embarrass yourself ‘The SCS is not deep”
            “The area belongs to China, China should not skulking like a thief or American, but explore it openly.”

            PLAN should make you Chief Commander of the SCS! All SMART navy, esp USN have mini subs with Navy Seals deployed in Midget Subs from the mother sub to carry out close up attacks which the mother sub cannot safely do.

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    • Steve says:

      Sounds more like ‘Get Smart’ American tv spy comedy that satirizes the secret agent genre, battles the evil forces of KAOS alias USA with sidekick Japan, starring top spy Kaos agent lunatic Luma. With thousands of false targets or drones at sea, the foreign submarines probably got lost in its communication entanglement and drive the KAOS into schizophrenia.

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    • chankaiyee2 says:

      You had better read my post “Chinese Warship Seized US Underwater Drone to Show Its Capability” in December 2016 to overcome your ignorance.

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      • Joseph says:

        Perhaps the American is getting confused with so many Chinese drone signals. With so many Chinese warships, if they retrieve the wrong one, they might get extra torpedo inbound. While they were going crazy, they saw they Chinese fished out yellow drone with foreign signals, which turned out to be theirs. All they can do was to protest. They better play drones in Caribbea next time, before the Chinese is coming too.

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